love it how...

[fingertrouble]

I can hardly ever have a decent normal conversation with a older bears re: pop or modern music.

I apparently am a bitch* and ageist and don't know what I'm talking about. *Sigh*.

Back to my two much older partners who listen to Handel, Wagner and suchlike, or aren't really into music. So much safer...cos I know little about those. Apart from Bach and Wagner who I mostly hatehatehate. Well only bits of them.

I do hold strong views re: music having written, podcasted, listened, watched, DJ'd etc for years...but strange how it just reverts to age. I thought that had passed years ago. Happy to argue the toss, but strange how people immediately get defensive and offensive.

But me? Ageist? Really?


*irony of a supposedly butch looking man in redneck bubba drag living in NYC choosing to call me a bitch, well...choice of that word confirms that in this case I see Tarzan and most definitely hear Jane.

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[holy13nation.livejournal.com]

Why did he call you a bitch?
Over music?

Any man who calls another man a bitch is saying far more about himself than anyone else.

Funnily enough, I was called an 'old man' by some overweight nancy with a beardette, bad attitude and girly manner on Saturday. I smugly adapted something I had used in Brighton and told him he would only ever be one of those things.

[fingertrouble.livejournal.com]

It was in response to this - I'd written it to be humorous, hence the winky:

"Pop music by it's very nature keeps moving. It's for the young and young at heart, and always has recycled and reused and reinvented the new from the old.

Saying 'ooh it twere better in mah day' well that sounds like a grumpy old man syndrome to me ;-)"

[fingertrouble.livejournal.com]

Apparently that was an ageist comment, and I am a bitch for saying it.

???

[holy13nation.livejournal.com]

Storm...meet teacup.

[snousle.livejournal.com]

I'm wondering what you mean by "modern" music? When I hear that, I think Schoenberg or Stravinsky.

[fingertrouble.livejournal.com]

true; I could have a less deep conversation about those. More deep re: the minimalists (Glass, Reich, Adams etc)

I meant modern pop music, but I know the 'modern classical' brigade has hijacked that term. But the too-hot touchstone seems to be pop music, as if it's a new religion/sex/politics That Should Not Be Discussed.

Then you get the 'it's all music right? I like what I like?' which although true is rarely helpful....nice to think sometimes why you might like something, where it came from, what it's meanings might be...

[fingertrouble.livejournal.com]

BTW quite a few of the early 20th composers (and artists) thought the modern music was jazz...Gershwin for example.

[bigbeard61.livejournal.com]

So I'm guessing that show tunes are right out.....

[fingertrouble.livejournal.com]

Not a fan of them...unless it's the Disney/60's classic, but not usually. Saw Wicked and it left me totally bemused and blank, if I like show tunes they need to have, well, a memorable tune...

And not really pop music unless Glee counts?