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fingertrouble ([personal profile] fingertrouble) wrote2008-11-05 03:53 pm

All men are considered equal?

I posted this early this morning but like the result it was a complete FAIL.

Basically the jubilation about Obama faded within an hour, because of Proposition 8 in CA and Prop 2 in Florida being passed. President Obama is against the proposition but wimps out in the usual 'civil union' like we have here. Better than being against I suppose . Sigh.

So call me the party pooper but it's obvious there is a long way to go before my friends in US get the same rights we have here, and become equal rathere than second class citizens because of who they love.

And the scary thing? Some of those who voted Yes must've also voted from Obama.

So as I said elsewhere, great step but when are you going to get an atheist president? True seperation of church and state would be a good start...rather than it being a campaigning platform. Then maybe we could all get past the mumbo jumbo and be truly free at last.

[identity profile] holy13nation.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Prop 8. Is an appalling, indefensible turn around.
However, far more appalling would be McCain in the Whitehouse as well.
Let's not forget that not too many hours ago people were more than a little concerned about the perceived reality of that.
I did not think I would see today in my lifetime.
And since that has happened there has to be possibility of change elsewhere in the future.

ps
fuck all right wing religious fucks.

[identity profile] timbearcub.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes - just watched the acceptance speech. I'm seriously impressed and moved by him. And he reminded everyone it wasn't for him, that change was needed and it will take a while.
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Agreed.

[personal profile] eskanto 2008-11-05 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to give McCain some credit, though, for a decent concession speech. Unlike some of his supporters (booing Obama? note that the crowd in Grant Park (Chicago) did no such thing), McCain was classy about his business, and pledged to not gum up the works out of resentment.

I'm holding him to that, but I do respect him from his Independent party days, and his experiences in Vietnam. I certainly would have preferred him to Bush II.